mekotronicsplz note: “the-best-technology-does-nothing-without-a-good-human-culture”
Yes! Read that correctly, modern SmartPhones are actually full blown computers, so why not use them as such?
Now that they have enough (RISC) based computational power that they can replace Desktop and Notebooks, problem: they can not run a “real” GNU Linux distro like armbian.
holy cow, check this out, amazing graphix on a Smart Phone (!!!)
used to be “x86 PC only” 3DMARK Graphics Benchmark also availble for ARM (iPhone and Android) https://youtu.be/CiVRQvroEzU?t=468
- “3DMark Wild Life is a cross-platform benchmark for Windows, Android and Apple iOS.”
- “Use 3DMark Wild Life to test and compare the graphics performance of smartphones, tablets and notebook computers.”
- “3DMark Wild Life uses the Vulkan graphics API on Windows PCs and Android devices. On iOS devices, it uses Metal.
- You can compare benchmark scores across platforms.” (https://benchmarks.ul.com/3dmark-android)
- u probably noticed… one missing platform… consoles… like Playstation (shame on SONY for not supporting Vulcan (enough))
EXACTLY what “Samsung Dex Mode” is about (checkout etaprime video review).
Samsung Dex Mode supported devices: (src)
- Galaxy S Phones: S9, S10, S20, S21, S22, S23
- Galaxy Note phones: Note9, Note10 series, Note 20 series
- Galaxy foldables: Fold, Z Fold2, Z Fold3, and Z Fold4
- Galaxy A phones: A90 5G
(performance wise anything after the S20, should be pretty decent)
and of course: ALL gaming consoles especially the Nintendo Switch (14 million units sold!) will get a MASSIVE competition:
currently the ONLY software problem still to solve for Android Apps (work or game) is to detect if the game is run in “mobile mode” (display the GUI accordingly and use touch-based-input) or in “desktop (dex) mode” (display the GUI accordingly, also switch off all touch-based input and go to keyboard-and-mouse input)
there is no name for those “smartphone-to-gaming-console converter kits” search amazon for phone+usb-c+gaming+controller (e.g. GameSir X2 Pro or Razer Kishi V2)
why care about power consumption?
Energy is expensive, as still too much power comes from non-renewable (it is going to end) fossil fuels (luckily renewables are going strong, but it could be more organised and faster).
Some users laugh about other users meassuring the power usage of devices.
like it or not, every watt counts in an datacenter, in an notebook and of course even more in an smart phone in terms of running costs and battery runtime.
It might sound “obvious”, but when the users of this planet finally, receive RISC(V) (ARM) based devices (aka SmartPhones) that are FAST enough to do VIDEO EDITING (!!!) and RE-ENCODING (x265) with reasonable speeds (like crop one 45min StarTrek series in 10min and re-encode with x265 in less than 5h (~6fps)) then (performance wise) RISC(V) (ARM) based CPUs have finally won over 86x.
Of course it would be great if those devices are kept “Open” in the sense, of let the user pick it’s favorite distro, make sure device can run “default” “general” GNU Linux distributions with the least amount of binary blob drivers possible with minimal adaptation, instead of locking devies down to “this-OS-only” mode.
Not sure if Samsung & other vendors care enough about this subject of “chose-your-own-distro” (Windows users are completely alien to the idea of being able to chose between different Desktops X-D)
how Intel’s RISC(V) cooperation will play out in those terms?
Those RK3588S (expensiv(er), but faster!) devices are supported by Armbian (desktop replacement video review, another one)
- RK3588S is 3.04x in single-core and 3.65x in multi-core faster than Raspberry 4 (Geekbench 4.4.2)
- Raspberry 4
- SingleCore 968
- MultiCore 2476
- RK3588S (website: rock-chips.com wiki, the S seems to be simply in size smaller version of the RK3588 but same speed?) (GeekBench5)
- Orange Pi 5 16GB
- Single-Core Score 549
Multi-Core Score 2261
- Orange Pi 5 16GB
- for comparison: Mac mini (Late 2020) Apple M1 3193 MHz (8 cores) (GeekBench5)
- SingleCore 1734 (3.15x faster than RK3588)
- MultiCore 7271 (3.21x faster than RK3588)
- for comparison: “LattePanda” intel x86 CPU Celeron N5105 CPU)
- according to this the RK3588 should be SingleCore +9.0% MultiCore +27.6% faster
- Raspberry 4
- ARM bench script https://pibenchmarks.com/
for example: BE WARNED! WHEN BUYING MADE-IN-CHINA THAT SHIPS DIRECTLY FROM CHINA THERE IS NO WARRANTY NO SERVICE NO SUPPORT NADA!
if lack of warranty is a concern, please buy from concept.biz (expensive, but definately 1 year warranty included)
- NanoPi R6S
- inexpensive 8k VideoPlayback (in VLC App) “as compact as possible” 😀
- storage is MicroSD
8K Video Output Rockchip 3588 Embedded Digital Signage Media Player 16+128g
- R58X by mekotronics.com
- mekotronics 8K Video Output Rockchip 3588 Embedded Digital Signage Media Player 16+128g
- different “Pro” variant: https://www.mekotronics.com/h-pd-55.html
- can do 8k Video on ARM (VLC or Kodi Player App via Android), not sure it can do 8k Youtube playback in Firefox (App or under Armbian)
- has 1x SATA connection (! nice !)
- video review of the device
- Orange Pi 5
- search eBay
- “moon” price 170,32EUR for 8GB RAM version “beyond-moon-price”: 16GB version of 284,04EUR
- (as if RAM was SOOO expensive X-D)
- search Amazon
- AliExpress0.us (not meant for for EU?)
- AliExpress1.us (US $75.00)
- AliExpress2.com (￡78.60)
- for EU but double the price? #wtf? 144,70EUR
- orange pi 5 CAN actually do DUAL Monitor out
- (on GNU Linux but not on Android via 1x HDMI, 1x via USB-C (needs adapter to HDMI)
- which is funny, because since Android12, Android SHOULD support multi display out
- Rock5 (extensions)
- Rock5B (US based store)
- 16GB RAM version
Video Editing Benchmark?
this guy tried KDELive video editor with this CPU with 1080p videos it is “okayish”
(the LattePanda is running a intel x86 CPU Celeron N5105 CPU)
the slowness of the Rock 5B can not be explained with the CPU, might it be harddisk performance problem (lack of SATA, NVMe connection)?
Those RK3399 a (bit slower, but also cheap(er)) devices are supported by Armbian, for example:
- LTS (long Term Supply)
- PINE64 committed to supply at least for 5 years until year 2023 and beyond (src)
“ROCKPro64 is the most powerful Single Board Computer released by Pine64. Its powered by a Rockchip RK3399 Hexa-Core (dual ARM Cortex A72 and quad ARM Cortex A53) 64-Bit Processor with MALI T-860 Quad-Core GPU. The ROCKPro64 is equipped with 4GB LPDDR4 system memory and 128Mb SPI boot Flash. There is also an optional eMMC module (up to 128GB) and microSD slot for booting.” (here is a video review)
also interesting benchmark:
Other phones that got pretty good performance-to-price ration, but might not have a “Dex” mode:
(UNTESTED: Dimensity 9000 CPU is said to be pretty fast but yes pricey)
- it is strange, that geekbench results vary so greatly, but yes that Xiaomi just outperformed the already super fast RK3588S
- search geekbench
according to this screenshot the results are:
- Xiaomi 12T (SingleCore: 898, MultiCore: 3686)
- Xiaomi 12T Pro (SingleCore: 1338, MultiCore: 4285)
- Samsung S22 Ultra (SingleCore: 1162, MultiCore: 3628)
- Honor 70 Pro+
- OnePlus 10R
- OnePlus Nord 3
- OPPO Find X5 Pro Dimensity Edition
- Realme GT Neo 3T
- Vivo X80
- Xiaomi 12T
- Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming
Unfortunately the plug was pulled on startup of connector-rich (NAS optimized) SoC Helios64 SoC
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