update: 2022: ah oh: Pine community in Pain? https://blog.brixit.nl/why-i-left-pine64/

  • “In February 2021, PINE64 announced the end of the community editions. At this moment, PINE64’s focus shifted from supporting a diverse ecosystem of distributions and software projects around the PinePhone to just supporting Manjaro Linux alone.”
  • “The fact that a useful software ecosystem for the PinePhone exists at all is thanks to the diverse strategy employed by PINE64 in supporting many distributions working together on each of the many facets of the software required.”
  • “Much of the original hardware bring-up was done by Ubuntu Touch”
    • “Mobian developers built the telephony stack via their eg25-manager project.”
    • “And in my role for the postmarketOS distribution, I developed the camera stack.”
  • “Manjaro Linux has been largely absent from these efforts.”
  • “The people working on many of the Linux distributions represented in the community editions tend to work not just on packaging software, but on building software as well.”
  • “This is not the case for Manjaro, which focuses almost entirely on packaging existing software.”
  • “Supporting Manjaro has historically done very little to facilitate the development of the software stack which is necessary for these devices to work.”

2021-12: PinePhone Pro announced! :)

PinePhone Pro can run full blown LibreOffice https://ytpak.net/watch?v=BWk2Z2HjT7U

PinePhone Pro can run full blown LibreOffice https://ytpak.net/watch?v=BWk2Z2HjT7U

(once it becomes available) will have (checkout what pine hardware is in stock and what not)

update: 2021-01 “the best (most privacy & security & usability) Smart Phone solution” is yet to be found (PinePhone (yet untested) comes close) and it would be like:

  • runs standard unmodified GNU Linux kernel
  • 100% open source drivers
  • comes with a firewall that only allows absolutely necessary traffic and asks users of any app / program that wants to send in and out data



Low cost Board and a ARM based laptop for below 100USD?

NICE! https://www.pine64.org/?post_type=product



Pine Phone


cheap, light, 6h battery

14″ display: https://www.pine64.org/?product=pinebook

11″ display: https://www.pine64.org/?product=11-6-pinebook



can run Debian/Ubuntu



“roughly” same speed as Raspberry pi3 X-D






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